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voodeux
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Posted: 05/29/08 at 06:48 PM

news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7426794.stm




Isolated tribe spotted in Brazil













The photos are being used to prove the tribe's existence
Image: Gleison Miranda, Funai





One of South America's few remaining uncontacted indigenous tribes has been spotted and photographed on the border between Brazil and Peru.


The Brazilian government says it took the images to prove the tribe exists and help protect its land.


The pictures, taken from an aeroplane, show red-painted tribe members brandishing bows and arrows.


More than half the world's 100 uncontacted tribes live in Brazil or Peru, Survival International says.


Stephen Corry, the director of the group - which supports tribal people around the world - said such tribes would "soon be made extinct" if their land was not protected.


'Monumental crime'


Survival International said that although this particular group is increasing in number, others in the area are at risk from illegal logging.











Uncontacted tribe near Brazil-Peru border






The photos were taken during several flights over one of the most remote parts of the Amazon rainforest in Brazil's Acre region.


They show tribe members outside thatched huts, surrounded by the dense jungle, pointing bows and arrows up at the camera.


"We did the overflight to show their houses, to show they are there, to show they exist," the group quoted Jose Carlos dos Reis Meirelles Junior, an official in the Brazilian government's Indian affairs department, as saying.


"This is very important because there are some who doubt their existence."


He described the threats to such tribes and their land as "a monumental crime against the natural world" and "further testimony to the complete irrationality with which we, the 'civilised' ones, treat the world".


Disease is also a risk, as members of tribal groups that have been contacted in the past have died of illnesses that they have no defence against, ranging from chicken pox to the common cold.







voodeux
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Posted: 05/29/08 at 06:49 PM
i think its pretty crazy that there are still pockets of people living who have had little or no contact with the modern world.

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Posted: 05/30/08 at 06:01 PM
As an anthropology student, this makes me go "SQUEEEEEEEEEEE!!!"

But also makes me nervous. I worry that now that the Brazilian government knows they're there, there will be efforts to force them to "modernize".

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Posted: 05/30/08 at 10:01 PM
scarslikelace said:

As an anthropology student, this makes me go "SQUEEEEEEEEEEE!!!"



But also makes me nervous. I worry that now that the Brazilian government knows they're there, there will be efforts to force them to "modernize".

which ofcourse means death for most of them and a life of misery for the rest.

Edited by voodeux on : 5/30/2008 10:02 PM

Inti
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Posted: 05/31/08 at 09:04 AM
I just wish they would leave them alone.

I also think it's stupid for them to say that they've been living the same way, untouched by colonialism. Because that's bullshit. Colonialism changed everything - I'd be willing to bet that that's probably not their ancestral homeland and they came to that location to escape the Europeans.

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Posted: 06/03/08 at 06:08 AM
Well now that they've been spotted, they are truly fucked.

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Posted: 06/03/08 at 10:12 AM
Someone commented today that it was possibly a publicity stunt faked by the Brazillians to convince us that they hadn't actually already ruined all their land and destroyed these tribes homes and way of life.

I don't really condone the taking of the pictures, its clearly spooked them, if its real, but if it highlights the problems in Brazil with illegal logging and deforestation, I'm all for it. All for the sake of some arable farming land and a handful of burgers, it doesn't seem worth it.

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Posted: 06/03/08 at 10:14 AM
there was a brilliant documentary series here in the UK a few months back about various tribes around the world, still living the 'primative' lives they did. A man that used to be a survival expert of something lived with them for a month. It was great to watch, to see that they really hadn't changed their ways, but a lot of them were aware of the modern world around them and chose to stay as they were.

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Posted: 06/03/08 at 03:20 PM
Well I think the group's philosophy is to document their presence on the land to protect it from deforestation, but not make contact. As much as the anthropologist in me would love to study them, I think it's best to just leave them be.

As much as contacted groups may live in "primitive" ways, modernity has still had a huge effect on them. More often than not, for example, "primitive" tribes will use steel tools instead of stone or bone.

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Posted: 06/03/08 at 03:46 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/tribe/

ah well I should have mentioned that when I said about the program, they we were only with tribes that had established links already with the "modernised world". I wasn't meaning to suggest otherwise or that modernisation hadn't affected them.

I don't know if you can see the show outside the UK on the BBC website, but its certainly very interesting if you can catch it on you tube or via bit torrent. I'm sure studying it you'd know all about the various people featured around the globe, but its a very enjoyable and informative watch from a first hand perspective.

I still think that freaking them out with a helicopter/plane and telescopic lens is considered contact.

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Jersey said:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/tribe/

ah well I should have mentioned that when I said about the program, they we were only with tribes that had established links already with the "modernised world". I wasn't meaning to suggest otherwise or that modernisation hadn't affected them.

I don't know if you can see the show outside the UK on the BBC website, but its certainly very interesting if you can catch it on you tube or via bit torrent. I'm sure studying it you'd know all about the various people featured around the globe, but its a very enjoyable and informative watch from a first hand perspective.

I still think that freaking them out with a helicopter/plane and telescopic lens is considered contact.


Sorry, I didn't mean to come off as as much of an asshole as I sounded. There's just always so much media hype about "untouched and unchanged" tribes, and it just irritates me that Westerners completely undermine the enormous impact they had on the world when they decided that it needed "civilizing". /anthro rant hahaha

I'd definitely be interested in that documentary. I'll have to check it out tomorrow sometime




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Posted: 06/03/08 at 04:28 PM
hehe no I didnt think that, I just didnt want you to think I was being a moron haha!

I don't think the 'developed world' realises what a bunch of patronising cunts they are sometimes. I mean, I'm all for developments in technology and evolution of industry, but really, people have been living a simple life style like that for THOUSANDS and THOUSANDS of years and did they fuck up the planet? Noooooooope. Can't blame them for the oil crisis!

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Posted: 06/03/08 at 07:51 PM
scarslikelace said:

As an anthropology student, this makes me go "SQUEEEEEEEEEEE!!!"

But also makes me nervous. I worry that now that the Brazilian government knows they're there, there will be efforts to force them to "modernize".


Come on now, it can't be a bad thing to bring things like sanitation, medicine, and the NFL to these people. They might prefer not dying from simple infections.


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Posted: 06/03/08 at 07:54 PM
Jersey said:

hehe no I didnt think that, I just didnt want you to think I was being a moron haha!

I don't think the 'developed world' realises what a bunch of patronising cunts they are sometimes. I mean, I'm all for developments in technology and evolution of industry, but really, people have been living a simple life style like that for THOUSANDS and THOUSANDS of years and did they fuck up the planet? Noooooooope. Can't blame them for the oil crisis!


To be fair, unmodernized man was very effective at adversely impacting it's environment. That being said, I haven't bought into the whole planet being fucked up. The planet seems fine, it's the people that are fucked - to quote a wise man.


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